Taxis, carseats, and transit... oh my!

Posted on April 7, 2008 at 7:34 p.m. by Green Mama.

It’s another day as a car-free mother of a toddler and I’m standing on the corner with Zella Rose in her sling and a huge, toddler carseat at my side. I called a taxi but it never came. So, I’ve dragged the carseat, the baby, and all the baby’s stuff to the corner. Empty taxis are swooshing by me. Some slow down, but none of them stop.

I often run into this one neighbor while waiting for a bus or taxi on this particular corner. He is an attractive black man in his mid-30s. When I was pregnant, he once rushed out to hold an umbrella over my head in the rain. Today, he is standing on the concrete that serves as the apartment building’s front yard, and offering commentary, “You’ve heard, I suppose, of how hard it can be for a black man to catch a cab,” he says and I smile knowingly. I step further into the street, waving harder. Two more empty taxis keep on driving. “Well, I guess it’s worse being a woman with a baby,” he continues. We both laugh. He tries his luck in the street waving down taxis for me. No luck. I feel like together we set the scene for some sort of bad joke. (“Have you heard the one about the black guy, the mama, and the baby trying to catch a cab?”)

We’re still laughing when a taxi finally stops.

It takes me five full minutes to get the carseat into the taxi and still it doesn’t seem secure. And then we’re off, a full hour and twenty minutes later than I’d hoped.

I like the expert’s opinion on these things, so I ask the taxi driver why no one else would stop for me. “It’s the baby,” he says. “They probably didn’t see the car seat. You gotta’ have one. The law, you know,” he says and puts his cell phone up to his ear to answer a call.

I didn’t actually know and, well, it didn’t seem quite right. I know lots of people who take their babies in taxis without carseats, like everyone in New York City just for starters. Later that night, I got on the computer and started trying to figure out this quandary: if you are legally required to use a carseat in a taxi how come I know so many people who don’t?

Well, the taxi driver was right. My friends in New York who “Always take cabs without carseats, I’m sure it’s fine,” are also right. In most states, such as in New York, children aren’t required to be in carseats while in taxis as well as other forms of public transit. This was also true for Illinois, until 2004, when the state passed the Booster Law. I still can’t figure out all of the details of this law, but I read page after page of legalese, before giving in and calling a Chicago cop. (I love 3-1-1, the city’s information line.)

The cop confirmed that children do have to be restrained while riding in a taxi in Illinois. Indeed, he explained, that a taxi driver can be fined and lose his license if he is caught carrying a child as a passenger without an appropriate carseat.

Now, I find this incredibly irritating. I don’t mind the state telling me I have to put my kid in a carseat in my car, but when using public transit, this just seems wrong. And, yes, I am lumping taxis in with public transit! This is because I am far more likely to take my child on the bus somewhere if I know that we can take a taxi if we have to. Come on, we’ve all had transit horror stories, and what makes them great stories and not just horrible, is that you have a way out. Imagine being trapped for hours on a broken down train where you can get off the train but your choices are to either walk 10 miles back home with your crying baby or break the law and get in a taxi without the carseat. Not to mention, it doesn’t seem like the taxi driver should be help accountable, but rather the parent.

Do other people get this upset about these kinds of laws?

We all have stories about what our parents did. My friend just told me how her parents used to put them to bed in their sleeping bags in the back of the station wagon and then LEAVE them sleeping outside until, early in the morning, the parents would sneak into the car and drive them to their grandparents in Indiana.

What are our stories? How does our generation balance the laws, demands of parenting, and the desire to be either car-free or less dependent on personal car ownership?

Should young children be required to be in carseats in taxis? Should they wear seatbelts while on a school bus? Does it upset you that you can go without a carseat in a taxi in New York or Minneapolis, but not in Chicago? What do you do when you leave the house intending to ride public transit? Do you take a just-in-case carseat? Have you ever found it nearly impossible to get a taxi to stop with you and your baby? Share your stories!

 

Comments (8):

Tracy commented, on April 8, 2008 at 10:51 a.m.:

I live car-free in Chicago and have two children, both of whom still need a car seat and booster, respectively. I would never even consider taking a taxi without them being secured in their car seats (which, with two of them, is a practical impossibility given the heft of those things), so I use the RTA trip planner feature on the transitchicago website.

We go everywhere by el and bus and find it pretty easy, even with a stroller. Planning ahead is key, and a sense of humour helps. So does avoiding rush hour whenever possible :-)

Our family is committed to a simple, green lifestyle. Taking a cab just doesn't fit with that. Mass transit does.

Jill commented, on April 9, 2008 at 9:38 a.m.:

I care about safety, of my children but find blanket bureaucratic laws to be unhelpful. (Like for example my friend's pediatrician who insists that her two daughters must be drinking 1% or skim milk instead of the 2% she gives them --not because it has anything to do with my friend's daughters as individuals, but because that's what the rules of the physician's very large medical practice say.)

While it's true that a person can be in an accident anytime he or she is in a vehicle, the overall chances that you are going to be in a accident in a single 20-minute car ride are miniscule.

What matters in life is what you do every day, all the time, not the unusual exception. (The big piece of birthday cake you eat is a celebration; a big piece of cake every day is kind of sickening.)

Taxis are a wonderful component of public transportation, even though privately owned. Sinking into one once in a while at the end of a long day out in the public sphere of buses and els and crowds, especially when you have a young child, is lovely.

Even without a car seat.

Tracy commented, on April 10, 2008 at 10:32 p.m.:

I agree completely that in most instances, it's the every-day, all-the-time stuff that matters. But with car safety, I'm just not with ya. And I know the reason for my vehemence is that I'm one of the people for whom that slim chance of an accident became a reality.

I was in a horrific crash on the ONE occasion that, as an adult, I wasn't wearing a seat belt. It was just going to be "a quick drive". So for me, it's personal.

Do I think that the best focus of the law is on the families who don't even own a car seat for their children and let them hang out the windows of their own vehicles? Of course. But law or no law, I wouldn't put my children in a car without a car seat, no matter what kind of convenience it might serve.

And having just watched a Chicago cabbie broadside a motorist off Michigan Ave. a couple of weeks ago, there's not a chance I'd hail a cab with my little ones!

laurene commented, on April 12, 2008 at 4:32 p.m.:

Dear Green Momma and LGP friends -
Manda, your cab predicament brings back worries from when I have been in similar situations taking my child in a cab. Maybe we were visiting grandparents out of town and they don't have a car or a car seat. Maybe we took public one way but needed to take a cab home the other way.

My first reaction has usually been to attempt to manipulate my son and the belts to create safety. We have wrapped the belts around ourselves, I have put him on my lap with the belt, and macarame'd his arms and mine through the belt and the extra belt. Sometimes we have put one belt over both of our laps. AT other times I have asked cabbies to slow down or drive more carefully. They usually don't respond cheerily.

What to do? I agree, Tracy, that being in a car in the first place is just wrong, risky, and less than safe.

Isn't design supposed to help us out of our eco-problems? Maybe the seat belt itself or the taxi seat could be redesigned in some way that would help. Where are the car manufacturers on this? I bet they have studies and designs in a file somewhere showing completely different seatbelt structures that could be useful to any age. Anyone want to send a letter of inquiry and suggestion with me? We would write to the Taxicab, Limousine & Paratransit Association. http://www.tlpa.org/

Does anyone know Ralph Nader? He might know about this!

But then, aren't we just in cars again?

I wish there were a green momma way to get out of this predicament. The only one I can think of is vastly improved mass transit, horses, streets with no cars just bikes...and families and jobs and vegetable stores and bakeries all located close together.

Meagan Francis commented, on May 1, 2008 at 9:01 p.m.:

This is tricky, and it's one reason why I have a hard time taking taxis with my family. We have four sons--the youngest are 2 and 4 and really need to be in safety seats, particularly the 2-year-old. I know it's a rare chance that you'll actually be in an accident in a 10-20 minute drive, but I would prefer not to take that chance since as far as I'm concerned putting my kids in a car at all is one of the riskiest things I can do with them (and I'm all about not being paranoid when it comes to risks!). I particularly wouldn't want to put their safety so fully in the hands of an unknown cab driver.

Improved mass transit would be the way to get around this problem, I agree. I live in the city, but am far enough away from trains that they aren't even really an option for me. Our bus route isn't the best either.

(just found out about your blog in the Notebart Nature Center newsletter, by the way!)

Alice commented, on May 3, 2008 at 11:12 a.m.:

I take a taxi with my children without a carseat all the time although up until today I didn't know it was against the law. Of course it's safer to have a carseat and most parents will probably put their kids in a carseat in a cab but for it to be against the law is annoying. Oh, I've never had a problem getting a cab.

With my first I avoided it but after having my third I now take a cab when I have to. If I didn't occasionally use a cab (for example when 2 out of the 3 are screaming) we would have to get a car and drive all the time. I figure that in the end we are in a car SOOOO much less than we would be if we owned a car (maybe once a month or so) that the risk of the carseatless taxi rides versus driving all the time is worth it. I'm also a terrible driver and would be even worse with three children screaming at me.

Kim commented, on July 22, 2008 at 10:55 p.m.:

I did a little research, and I also called 311, but got a different answer. No, you do not need a carseat in a cab in Illinois.

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/dep...
Quote:
"Are child safety seats required in taxicabs?
No, commercial vehicles are exempt."

Scroll down to the FAQ.

But, I am wondering if it is a Chicago law? You know that Daley likes to do his own thing.

Editor commented, on August 12, 2008 at 11 p.m.:

This post is very relevant to a recent one at our blog

http://www.parentzing.net

It's all about taking public transportation with babies or small children. We provide some tips (as well as a little humor, hopefully).

We do it all the time with our twins and it is now second nature to them. In the beginning it was a little challenging, but that's all paid off when they now grab and swipe the cards themselves.

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